Management Deep Dive Podcast

Ekan Management combine insights from academic research with more than 40 years of consulting experience. In doing so, we aim to bridge theory and practice for lasting and resilient results. The Beyond Budgeting Institute aim at bringing people, ideas and experience together to further successfull implementation of dynamic management models. We invite you into conversations that illuminate not only new ways of thinking but also new ways of leading and working together. 

Both management and consultancy are among the world’s oldest professions. The earliest civilizations arose from the need to collaborate around irrigation in the (sometimes not so) fertile lands between the rivers Euphrates and Tigris. This created the need for systems of management and decision-making—already 5,000–6,000 years BCE.

Since then, the art of leadership and effective human collaboration has been debated, tested, and refined.

This podcast is our humble attempt to continue that tradition—using the latest technology to make complex topics both engaging and accessible. With Management Deep Dive, we want to provide an introduction to the broad field of management that is inspiring, thought-provoking, and easy to grasp.

The podcast is produced with AI, but the topics and sources are carefully selected and vetted by our experienced experts. Each episode is quality-assured and can be trusted as a source of management knowledge.

Please reach out to info@ekan.com with praise, feedback, questions, and inquiries!

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Episodes

Thursday Dec 11, 2025

In the very last episode of the season, we recap our deep dive into why today’s dominant approaches to corporate leadership and management often feel outdated — and what organizations can do instead. We look back at the most important lessons from the season, insights from leading experts, and the most influential voices shaping the conversation today.
Listeners will also receive practical guidance on how to begin implementing new ways of working within their own organizations, as well as how to join the global community that is collectively challenging traditional management and governance.
Finally, we reveal our plans for next season and invite you, our listeners, to share feedback and suggest topics you’d like us to explore.

Wednesday Dec 03, 2025

The public sector also needs to adapt to an increasingly complex reality. Doing more with less requires a well-developed model for organizing, governing, and leading that is suited to the situation. This episode presents criticism of New Public Management and explains why there is a need to shift from mechanical, cost-focused control to a more human and dynamic model centered on value creation. Such a change is necessary to reduce silo-based lock-ins, build trust and engagement, and meet the complexity of today’s environment, including the need to handle uncertainty and rapid change.
We argue that, even in the public sector, it is crucial to shift the focus from “do I have the budget for this?” to “is this the right thing to do?”—while still acknowledging the need for budget documents and the reality of limited resources for serving citizens. Examples include Buurtzorg and NAV, a government agency that supports jobseekers and people on sick leave.

Wednesday Nov 26, 2025

In this episode, we connect the insights from previous episodes and deepen the understanding of how dynamic and decentralized management models can address the complexity and rapid change of today’s business environment. Through concrete examples, we illustrate how companies that have abandoned traditional annual budgeting in favor of flexible forecasting and other adaptive approaches have achieved superior results, greater innovation, and sustainable efficiency.
The episode presents leadership approaches and methods for dynamic resource allocation, decentralization, and continuous follow-up, showing how these have been applied in various contexts. Among the successful examples highlighted are Handelsbanken, Haier, Hilti, Roche, Toyota, and an anonymous medical technology company. These cases demonstrate not only that such a transformation is possible, but also how it has been carried out and the tangible benefits that have been achieved.

Wednesday Nov 19, 2025

In this episode, we summarize how organizations can challenge rigid command-and-control structures and move beyond traditional budgeting by implementing new ways of working. The discussion highlights common challenges and pitfalls, as well as the advantages of adopting governance and leadership models that foster engaged employees, more satisfied customers, and alignment with today’s complex and dynamic business environment.
The episode also explores how listeners can take initiative and how organizations can approach the transformation process to develop a more dynamic management model. We continue to share insights and practical examples that serve as alternatives to conventional management systems rooted in century-old traditions. Concrete examples are presented to help you and your organization successfully evolve a management model tailored to your unique rhythm and dynamics—without losing direction along the way.

Wednesday Nov 12, 2025

This episode addresses the paradigm shift in how organizations perceive and manage employee motivation. It explores how modern organizations must move beyond the outdated “carrot and stick” approach, which, according to Gallup, often results in disengaged or even actively disengaged employees.
The episode builds on McGregor’s Theory X and Theory Y and connects these ideas to contemporary perspectives on organizational performance. It discusses how designing a management environment grounded in autonomy, manageability, and a higher purpose can foster a culture of trust, respect, and shared values—ultimately leading to engaged and innovative employees. Examples are provided to illustrate how traditional reward systems can create dysfunctional behaviors, along with alternatives that promote intrinsic motivation and sustainable high performance.

Wednesday Nov 05, 2025

Effective leadership in today’s complex and dynamic business environment requires moving beyond rigid command-and-control structures. At the core of this shift lies the development of a strong, adaptive organizational culture deeply rooted in psychological safety and trust. Leaders must be empowered to influence the behaviors and actions that shape this culture, thereby reducing the gap between what is said and what is done.
This episode explores how organizations can strengthen their teams through autonomy and transparent communication, and how they can consciously adapt their management environments to different contexts to ensure alignment with corporate values. The episode also highlights the importance of psychological safety and introduces the “Viable Map” framework developed by the Beyond Budgeting Institute.

Wednesday Oct 29, 2025

The traditional hierarchical organization is no longer sufficient in today’s dynamic environment. Alternatives that emphasize trust, autonomy, and a clear shared purpose are presented in this episode. By sharing information and decentralizing decision-making, organizations such as Buurtzorg, Handelsbanken, and Morningstar have adopted frameworks often referred to as self-managing teams, Teams of Teams, or agile teams.
While this alternative approach can be challenging, the benefits—in terms of efficiency, adaptability, employee satisfaction, and customer focus—are evident. This episode discusses both the challenges and real-world examples of transformations toward more modern and human-centered forms of organization that replace traditional command-and-control structures.

Wednesday Oct 22, 2025

The traditional budgeting process is primarily designed to prioritize and allocate scarce resources to enable the organization to deliver on its objectives. However, this process comes with several inherent limitations. For example, resources are often locked in long before sufficient information is available, the connection to strategy tends to be weak, the process is disconnected from the company’s natural rhythm, and it is time-consuming—often becoming outdated just a few months after completion.
In this episode we explore how budgeting can be redesigned into a dynamic and forward-looking system for resource allocation. This includes separating different processes and adopting a portfolio management perspective on budgeting. We also discuss how to decentralize decision-making and prioritize flow and strategic adaptability over strict cost optimization. Finally, the episode explains how to reduce unnecessary demand in service delivery and provides examples of how a dynamic allocation process can drive greater efficiency.

Wednesday Oct 15, 2025

This episode explains why an effective forecasting process is essential for navigating uncertainty. Rather than relying on traditional, backward-looking budgeting in an attempt to predict the future with false certainty, we highlight a more dynamic, forward-looking approach.
Key concepts and methods such as rolling forecasts and trend analysis are introduced, showing how organizations can replace the artificial deadline of December 31 with continuous, adaptive planning. In an unpredictable world, this shift offers far greater clarity and control than static annual budgets ever could.
The episode also addresses the challenges of conventional budgeting and the dysfunctional biases that often emerge around year-end cycles—providing insights into how companies can overcome these pitfalls and build a more resilient management model.

Wednesday Oct 08, 2025

All organizations use performance measurement in one form or another. To be effective, however, these systems must be flexible, aligned with the organization’s strategic direction, and reinforce the behaviors that truly drive success.
This episode explores how to move beyond static, annual control models rooted in traditional budgeting and towards more dynamic approaches. Concepts such as financial ROI, balanced scorecards, KPIs, and OKRs are introduced—along with techniques that help avoid the pitfalls of focusing too narrowly on numbers.
The discussion also highlights well-known dysfunctional behaviors that emerge when performance management becomes overly metrics-driven, ultimately undermining owners’ and leaders’ ambitions to be efficient, attractive employers with motivated and engaged people.

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